Old school if it has a code stamp with Cr on sn it's not true mitlary spec most of not but as far as colt 6920 le god they or as close to real as u ever get only semi and in and hafe different but am saying new saint is a winner in ar class so many made good ars but saints out more bang for the buck then any mafg. That means that Im not normally impressed with an AR-15 that comes out of a box complete. purchase helps support my work in bringing you more awesome gun and gear articles. And no, the fact that your grandfather was a Marine, or your Father in Law was a State Trooper back in 1962, does not automatically confer all knowledge to you. None at all- The gun sighted in quickly and was super accurate. I cant say there was a clear winner in this AR versus AR article, I liked both guns a lot! at STILL a Sent it in. My JP rifle that was 3 times the price has experienced the same thing. You can go wrong with this platform whatsoever. The Springfield loved the heavier 69-gr Matchking round, and I got a group just a tad under an inch and a half without too much trouble. My first AR style rifle and I would definitely recommend it to anyone looking for a good overall choice, especially in the under $1k category. I wanted to compare Springfield's AR-15 with the Ruger and Colt equivalents, and it's actually kinda funny, but on paper, they're nearly identical. It is the same damn rifle, and not just the furniture. Colt is a little more pricey but kind of the gold standard. With both guns, all groups were right around 1.5-inches again, at 50-yards, with iron sightsI think with more practice, I could shrink those groups down a bit more. Why is the S&W 15 off your list ? Mar 25, 2015. The advertisers at SurvivalBlog sell prepping items, and ~storage foods. So I ordered my SA Saint from the local Bass Pro Shops- Wanted brand new with no other hands on it besides the test fire dude/dudette. Since purchasing, I have outfitted my Saint with a Vortex Spitfire AR (1x) red dot, which has worked great and was quite easy to zero. Sorry everyone. Reloads can be loaded by anyone. That rifle was the SR-556, and to say it was a big success would be quite an understatement. - Frances Bacon DONE WITH SPRINGFIELD!!!!! It now reaches more than 320,000 unique visitors weekly. I saw a very nice Colt AR barrel destroyed with s steel cased squib .223 Wolf round. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately I dont come up with a a search box with this iPad but just did a google search and found a few. No holds barred guide on prepping for the coming mini ice age: storage food, gardens, seeds, livestock, water systems, hunting, security, antibiotics, firearms, more. Compare. Symptoms of excessive pressure are well known: extraction and/or feeding issues and general battering of the gun and its cartridge cases. I highly recommend this gun! I will caution you that I think .40 ammo is getting very scarce compared to 9mm and .45. If it doesnt feed reliability, it can be fixed, improved later. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. One is a through and through American firearms company with excellent customer service. I also added a Vortex SPARC AR red dot sight (love it). While the Saint is chambered for the 5.56mm round, it will also accept .223 Remington (like all other 5.56mm rifles). We greatly appreciate your support to help keep this blog up and running! I dont know, if they still do. I decided that I really like the Hera stock, and so I ended up getting the Ruger. However, for the people who have recently come to this mindset, I would recommend that if you cant get a good one get a mediocre one, if not that, get a used one or a franken-stoner. An 80% polymer lower with a bunch of random, mass produced parts is going to be better than nothing. DB15, Smith and Wesson, Ruger 556, have seen Sig Treads at $850. When the Saint hit the stores I could not wait to get my hands on I own some Springfield firearms and was excited but because they had not put out such a firearm I decided to wait for a year and see the reviews and until today 2018 February 14th I heard it's still a piece of junk I live here in Nevada where you can shoot before you buy and found it few of the stores do not even allow you to shoot the saint and when I finally did it did exactly what everyone said it jammed every 15 rounds I always see these massive reviews about junk Glocks the junk vp9 and now the junk saint I believe that the people riding these reviews are either being paid by the big companies or have never actually done any real hands on reviews of the Firearms they're talking about going out to the range and shoot in your 10-round magazine does not make it an excellent or superb or reliable firearm so once again do yourself a favor drop a Sig and let me know how it goes. Further, and always near the top of my list for a carbine build, is an H-weight tungsten buffer that comes standard on a Saint. The first two are built on AR-15 platforms, while the last two are AR-10 . The .300 BLK has a pistol-length system and the 5.56 is carbine-length. Liked mine so much I bought a second for my son! Right now in my life it just makes more sense to buy a complete one. It shoots fine, but I would caution anyone buying a Saint that thinks they might ever want to swap parts with a regular Milspec AR-15. The Bravo Company Buttstock is sturdy yet comfortable, the A2-style front sight gives it a vintage look, and the Nickel Boron bolt carrier slides with ease. Now the new pins are backing out. Have had multiple Failures to Fire with Wolf brand .40 in my Glock 22 despite what looks like a good strike. If you already have one, you might think about getting a couple more to pass on to your grandchildren. The gun will shoot just fine. Something the wife likes! I would get the Ruger if you had to buy a complete rifle just because its cheaper. Feels good. Note: There is a sizable model-option list across the whole Saint line, and Im going to focus primarily on the basic carbine, simply called the Saint. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. For example, a regular length charging handle will not fit in my Saint. Both guns will last a lifetime, too. JWR is a journalist, technical writer, and novelist. Moyie Springs, Idaho 83845. And the gun only weighs in at 6.8 pounds. Anyone know for sure? /r/ar15 is here for your favorite black gun links, build pics, questions and other tactical or practical information. Their drunk with power, embolden after stealing an election. Form meets function and sets the Saint apart from competitors like the S&W M+P 15, which can have a bit of a plastic feel. Worlds better than a stock USGI. Gray, we may end up taking a lot of lessons from the Jewish settlers as Christians and Christian values come under more and more attack from the left. All that said, I switched to the G21 and will remain with a round that delivers a big hydrostatic shock. Bravo Company: Mod 0, Mod 2, Recce 14/16. This thing is light, fun, reliable, accurate and easy on the eyes. Trigger bbr to. Its an AR-15 made by someone else. Your discussions, feedback and comments are welcome here as long as they are relevant and insightful. A mid-length design moves the carbine (16-in. I own several ARs and all shoot well. $650 for the whole rifle. Saint vs M&P15 vs AR-556 | Best AR-15 Pistol Comparison & Review Watch on A quick review of three popular AR-15 Pistols Springfield Saint Pistol Smith & Wesson M&P15 Pistol Ruger AR556 Pistol Compared and Reviewed Note to readers: Please click the share buttons above or below. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Buyers who know their safety is their own responsibility. And yes, i would be totally comfortable putting into a combat scenario. Id personally go with the Ruger. Great AR-15 and got her for about $889.00ish at Cabelas. Opposite the crossed cannons the lower receiver is marked with the Springfield Armory SAINT logo. Build your own. It was tough to part with that much money for a weapon until the first trigger pull. $1,249.99. Have you used the Springfield Saint? They read well,and I've watched vids.. About the same price too. I think I'm going to get an ambi safety and a Juggernaut Tactical thumb rest to go with it. Romans 1:16- "For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ". Are your best entry-level for the cash. I didnt expect any and didnt have any problems and the barrels on both guns were very hot after 90 rounds down range. When you find a different stock you prefer, swap it out. Using comparable ammo from the same distances, the Saint had better groupings. My single complaint is the word saint being so huge on the mag well, lol. I am currently looking at the Ruger MPR but am open to suggestions in the price range of $500-$1000. Ruger barrel - 1:8 twist. As a side note, ive never been disappointed with springfield. That's what General Custer's troops said after their defeat at Little Big Horn because they were armed wirh trapdoor Springfield rifles and colt .45's and they were finished with Springfield. The BCM Gunfighter forend uses M-Lok attachment slots. I just cant pretend that it wouldnt be. In the same way, the Saint is an AR-15 made by Springfield Armory. But that will give you a good indication of the price . Anybody own one or have any input? With ammo prices, the .22 pistol and ammo will be paid for in the savings by not spending $400 to get 400 rounds of .40 training rounds. could be a tad more accurate. iron sights good qual and co witness. You might find a smaller company in your area that has a good deal. There are a lot of good choices in the Ruger price range, so with the Ruger being American made, and they have excellent customer service, I chose the AR 556. I have the S&W M&P15 Sport II, and the original Springfield Saint (not free-floated). 3 9 9 comments Best Add a Comment How come people say jams when i.hot over 10000 rounds thur one never why People jealous that a Springfield is better most all.out there is why and better dd to.better finsh trigger bbr. It had a few extras like an adjustable trigger for that price. It's perfect for sporting or home defense with high reliability and some furniture and trigger upgrades that set it apart from other budget AR-15s. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. You may know Springfield from their famed M1A rifles and 1911s . Now, I did the rapid-fire test with one gun, and then immediately followed it with the accuracy testing, while the barrel was hot. . Can't trust a review from someone that doesn't know how to use a period. Glock lists five different pistols in .40: the G22, G 23, G 24, G27, G35. I am so happy with my new AR - My only AR actually. One more thing you dont have to buy, but would otherwise! Maybe you can pool resources and time. It is obvious to most, that the politicians have tied the hands of the police, and most police officers are pretty much a target for AntiFa and Black Lives Matter.